karvarousku
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Do not let the outer appearance fool you. If you do, I will eat you alive.
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Kudos
Aug 9, 2011 8:36:18 GMT -5
Post by karvarousku on Aug 9, 2011 8:36:18 GMT -5
Nothing else to say!
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Kudos
Aug 9, 2011 9:40:32 GMT -5
Post by tainted on Aug 9, 2011 9:40:32 GMT -5
Thank you! /e Tell all your friends so we can get this community nice and strong by the time D3 goes live!
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Kudos
Aug 9, 2011 15:11:10 GMT -5
Post by raqataq on Aug 9, 2011 15:11:10 GMT -5
Nice avatar i love mrotal kombat.
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Kudos
Aug 17, 2011 5:38:14 GMT -5
Post by papaz on Aug 17, 2011 5:38:14 GMT -5
Yeah, agree on "kudos".
I hope you guys will do well making a good PvP community for D3. It's really shame that Blizz is so unsupportive of this portion of the community.
That is what happens when a game company becomes too big. They start telling their customers how they should be playing the game instead of listening.
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Kudos
Aug 17, 2011 12:48:53 GMT -5
Post by shdwdrake8 on Aug 17, 2011 12:48:53 GMT -5
I think they have a right to do whatever the heck they want. Balancing PvP is a huge ordeal and I understand that with nothing else but games where they have to do that that they just want to balance a game for fun again. Let's be optimistic and appreciate that there is pvp at all, that there will be pvp modes (arena, tdm), etc. Hundreds of other games function in competitive pvp without integrated ladders, so I'm sure we'll be fine.
Edit: Also, kudos!
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Kudos
Aug 19, 2011 2:36:50 GMT -5
Post by papaz on Aug 19, 2011 2:36:50 GMT -5
I think they have a right to do whatever the heck they want. Balancing PvP is a huge ordeal and I understand that with nothing else but games where they have to do that that they just want to balance a game for fun again. Let's be optimistic and appreciate that there is pvp at all, that there will be pvp modes (arena, tdm), etc. Hundreds of other games function in competitive pvp without integrated ladders, so I'm sure we'll be fine. Edit: Also, kudos! So let me get this straight. You came to D3Combat, a site that popped up because of the lack of support of Blizzard in D3 competitive PvP, to more or less defend Blizzards stance in not having PvP ladder in the game? Did I get it right? You couldn't have used the official forums or Diablofans where people love to play dressup and giggle out of joy when they find a new scripted boss and at the same time bash on competitive PvP with the mantra "this isn't world of diablocraft", "this is PvE", "this is Blizzard, I will do what I am told to do"?
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Kudos
Aug 20, 2011 15:39:09 GMT -5
Post by shdwdrake8 on Aug 20, 2011 15:39:09 GMT -5
No need to rage man. I've been gaming a long time and I've come to learn that if any game has the capability for players to kill each other that there will be some kind of organization, whether integrated or not. However, the trend recently is that every game needs to be an integrated e-sport and that was never the only things that video games were about. I love PvP and I've played many games where it is an element of the game as well as games where it is the sole focus. However, there is no need to go around waving your e-peen and saying that a PvE game is nothing but "playing dressup and killing scripted bosses." Please bold/underline the part where I: bash competitive PvP, say "this isn't world of diablocraft," say "this is PvE," or say "this is Blizzard, I will do what I am told to do." I understand you are making reference to Diablofans or the official forums, but unless you can connect any of that to anything I said it is just a poor attempt at a Straw Man argument. But to answer your question (since I digress), yes, I came to a place that I assumed loved Blizzard and the game they are going to produce and "defended" (more like explained) their stance because they have already given a place like d3combat the tools it needs to be successful. Sure, no integrated ladders, but designated PvP modes are way better imo. What do ladders matter if you're just doing boring duels? Websites can manage ladders, they can't create modes in the game that aren't there. If you wish to bitch and moan at Blizzard for not making the game the way YOU want it, then maybe YOU should go to the official forums or diablofans. I came here because I love Diablo and I love PvP.If you hate what Blizzard is doing so much, play a different game that will suit your needs. Diablo would be fun without pvp. Luckily, itt will be more fun than that because there will be PvP. WoW was fun without PvP, but the amount of bullshit that happened when PvE got balanced and it ruined PvP and then PvP got "balanced" and ruined PvE really diminished that. To answer something you said in a previous post about Blizzard telling people how to play their own games... do you know what a Genre is? I was at one of the Blizzcons (I've been to all but 1) and some little kid asked a question in the Q/A about Starcraft 2. The question was, "Will the map editor allow me to make a FPS?" Of course not! The game is an RTS, not an FPS. If Blizzard wants to focus the game on PvE, it is their prerogative. I don't play League of Legends and bitch that there isn't enough PvE. The moral of the story here is that Blizzard isn't killing PvP, they just aren't making a priority of it. SC2 and (to some minor degree) WoW are both games with thriving PvP. If they want to make a game fun for PvE the way video games used to be, I salute them. I also thank them for giving us arena modes, TDM modes, and PvP at all. Despite what they want to do with THEIR GAME, they are listening to the fans and compromising. You would sound a lot smarter if you appreciated the good things instead of sounding like some guy with a tinfoil hat in his mom's basement. Sorry for the long post. I can handle being disagreed with but when people just rage, throw around illogical fallacies, and complain about things they should be thankful for... I tend to vent.
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Kudos
Aug 21, 2011 12:00:39 GMT -5
Post by tainted on Aug 21, 2011 12:00:39 GMT -5
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Kudos
Aug 22, 2011 2:10:07 GMT -5
Post by papaz on Aug 22, 2011 2:10:07 GMT -5
To answer something you said in a previous post about Blizzard telling people how to play their own games... do you know what a Genre is? I was at one of the Blizzcons (I've been to all but 1) and some little kid asked a question in the Q/A about Starcraft 2. The question was, "Will the map editor allow me to make a FPS?" Of course not! The game is an RTS, not an FPS. If Blizzard wants to focus the game on PvE, it is their prerogative. I don't play League of Legends and bitch that there isn't enough PvE. ROFL. Great comparison. Asking for the ability with the map editor to create an FPS in an RTS game vs what I am asking for: making the ladder visible in an arpg game so we can have competitive PvP (since there is already an invisible rating you could say there is already a ladder in place). And inb4 you go on a long rant and write a new essay about the definition of what competitive PvP is and balance rant, take a deep breath and just relax and be satisfied that the PvP can be considered competitive with only a ladder. Did I ask for a new game mode in D3? Did I ask for anything that already isn't in place? I'm guessing you didn't take the time to click your own link on what a genre is? Here, let me repost the link for you: GenreThe moral of the story is Blizzard isn't killing PvP Did I say they were killing PvP? I think you should read one of your own references: Straw Man argumentInstead of acting smartass and lecturing people you should take a minute to think on what I meant instead of taking each and every word I wrote literally and correcting my illogical fallacies like you are my professor correcting my doctoral thesis. I think you understood my point (just like I understand your point but decide to pick on you because you made me lol with the long rant), which had a huge dose of sarcasm in it, perfectly but decided to take it on a different path, acting smartass and writing an essay lecturing me about the rules of logic. All concluding your lecture with even more sorry ass comment "sorry for the long post.." while you're sitting there satisfied, probably giving yourself a pat on the back *lol* for taking the time to write the long rant searching/finding illogical fallacies in my post and being all jolly happy about it like a fucking dolphin in sea world. Jeez...
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Kudos
Aug 22, 2011 2:38:12 GMT -5
Post by papaz on Aug 22, 2011 2:38:12 GMT -5
Loving the passion in this thread Yeah, I think specially me and my bud shdwdrake8 are building up a good rivalry and our 1vs1 duels on the ladder are gonna be fierce ;D.
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karvarousku
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Do not let the outer appearance fool you. If you do, I will eat you alive.
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Kudos
Aug 22, 2011 13:49:01 GMT -5
Post by karvarousku on Aug 22, 2011 13:49:01 GMT -5
Loving the passion in this thread Yeah, I think specially me and my bud shdwdrake8 are building up a good rivalry and our 1vs1 duels on the ladder are gonna be fierce ;D. I don't wanna miss those!
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Kudos
Aug 22, 2011 19:54:11 GMT -5
Post by greenheat on Aug 22, 2011 19:54:11 GMT -5
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Kudos
Aug 22, 2011 23:19:54 GMT -5
Post by shdwdrake8 on Aug 22, 2011 23:19:54 GMT -5
Honestly, I've argued with a lot of people over the internet (I mean, come on, who hasn't?) and I have to admit your retort was pretty good, Papaz. Not saying I agree, accept, whatever, but just giving credit where it is due. I think we are both smart enough to know that any further argument is no more than epeen waving. We've both made our points and, sure, I look forward to some 1v1 action! Good show, man.
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karvarousku
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Do not let the outer appearance fool you. If you do, I will eat you alive.
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Kudos
Aug 23, 2011 7:46:07 GMT -5
Post by karvarousku on Aug 23, 2011 7:46:07 GMT -5
Honestly, I've argued with a lot of people over the internet (I mean, come on, who hasn't?) and I have to admit your retort was pretty good, Papaz. Not saying I agree, accept, whatever, but just giving credit where it is due. I think we are both smart enough to know that any further argument is no more than epeen waving. We've both made our points and, sure, I look forward to some 1v1 action! Good show, man. Nononono. Show must go on! E: Laugh of the day.
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Kudos
Aug 23, 2011 8:19:25 GMT -5
Post by tainted on Aug 23, 2011 8:19:25 GMT -5
This is gonna be the 1st D3Combat rivalry, fucking love it!
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